WordPress Weekly Bailout Edition

December 6th, 2008
WordPress Weekly

Due to some obligations which sprang up, Keith was unable to make it for this episode. So while schools, automakers, and banks ask for bailout packages, I had to do the same thing and you delivered. Special thanks to those who called in and turned what would have been a boring show into a great discussion on a number of topics.

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Stories Discussed:

10,000th Changeset Reached

2.7 For, Soon For Self Installers

My Idea To Manage Widgets In WordPress

Should You Install WordPress Via Fantastico? Pros And Cons


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  1. Alistair (3 comments.) says:

    Hate to say it however that was not a very good discussion on the pros and cons of using fantastico – I was expecting an in-depth look at well…the pros and cons rather than some people saying “install manually – its great”
    To be fair one person did leave a video response – however by that point it just seemed like the same discussion you can find scattered around the web so I decided to give it a miss!

    • Jeff Chandler (295 comments.) says:

      Hey, I’ll have to agree. I didn’t come to the show that week as prepared as I usually am and it showed. To really highlight the pros and cons, I’m going to write a blog post specially about it at some point.

  2. bubazoo (213 comments.) says:

    There’s nothing wrong with upgrading WordPress via Fantastico I don’t think. Its just that, the version that comes with Fantastico, is usually 1-2 minor versions behind. Other then that, I don’t see a disadvantage really.

    Why anyone would want to use the “subversion” method is beyond me. I say, all hosting providers should allow their clients SHELL access, because the ones that do, WP is a snap to upgrade vis shell prompt. We’re talking about 5 commands to run that take 2 seconds to execute, faster then that if you write up a simple .sh shell script. Can’t get much easier then that if you ask me. The famous “5 minute install” is too slow IMHO, but those without shell access its the only way.

    • Otto (215 comments.) says:

      The subversion method is by far the easiest way to do it. One command to upgrade to any version, period. Extremely easy. No scripting required. I just do “svn up blog” and it’s upgraded to the latest trunk. If I’m not running trunk, then it’s “svn sw blog” or what have you. No fuss, no muss. All you have to do then is to load your admin screen and run the database upgrade, if it tells you that you need to (you usually don’t, except on major versions).

  3. bubazoo (213 comments.) says:

    by the way, whats new in 2.6.5? I just now noticed that new version was just released. Whats new in it does anyone know?

    • Jeff Chandler (295 comments.) says:

      2.6.5 fixes a security problem which requires the stars to align for anyone to really take advantage of it. Their are also a few bug fixes as well.

  4. nommo (1 comments.) says:

    Fantastico – shmantastico! :)

    I use dreamhost and their ‘advanced’ install is a breeze – updates like a pro developer (all svn in the background to latest tagged version, auto backup to ‘wordpressdir.old’ etc. Latest version updates are usually minutes from release…


  5. Manasi (2 comments.) says:

    Hmm I’m not all that fond of subversion. I use the automatic upgrade plug in, which is a champ. It does a great many thing on automatic that were a real pain when I first upgraded (manually) from 2.6.1 to 2.6.3..the 2.6.3 to 2.6.5 was a snap, easiest thing I’ve had to do on WP ..period

  6. Stephen Cronin (30 comments.) says:

    Hi Jeffro.

    On the show you briefly mentioned a desire to be able to use PHP in widgets.

    Let me tell you that one of the very first plugins I load on any WordPress blog is PHP Code Widget, written by the one and only Otto. This lets you use PHP code in widgets and makes WordPress so much more flexible for people who are comfortable with PHP and tinkering with WordPress.


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