Comments on: Other Side Of Permalinks http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/ Weblog Tools Blogging Tools Blog Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:40:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Ted Clayton http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210836 Ted Clayton Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:18:33 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210836 @Luke #5 - Actually, I strongly suspect that you state the case accurately. "?=123" is perfect computer-logic, and would appear to pose no indexing difficulty whatsoever (it is your <em>content</em> that earns your index-ranking). I need to see some firm primary-references, before adopting the commonly-seen assertion that adverse SEO effects will stem from using such a URL. Anyone, please advise of such documents. @Luke #5 - Actually, I strongly suspect that you state the case accurately. “?=123″ is perfect computer-logic, and would appear to pose no indexing difficulty whatsoever (it is your content that earns your index-ranking). I need to see some firm primary-references, before adopting the commonly-seen assertion that adverse SEO effects will stem from using such a URL. Anyone, please advise of such documents.

]]> By: Ted Clayton http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210779 Ted Clayton Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:36:44 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210779 Yeah ... when the handle for a page is "?=123", that's room for 999 posts, in a mere 5 letters. How much horrid ugliness can be packed into a 5-letter string? ;-) OTOH, "?=123" clues me not, whether to expect the latest on Hollywood gossip, or Freud's Theory of the Id. I like that a link offers a peek at what we're in for. WordPress.com gives away a very nice hosted environment. Most are reasonable with the freebie, but there will be those who are not. With 2 million accounts out, it takes few to make trouble ... and that I suspect lies behind many of the 'arbitrary' limitations seen on the WordPress.com hosts, including the URL-formation policies. I have tried several kinds of searches, to uncover how search engines actually stand on "?=123", and what kind of penalty might be incurred, and I have been unsuccessful. Anyone got links? As a new WordPress author, I have written a short series of posts on different plugin titles. Each of them has risen to first-page ranking, quickly. I write on some other less-popular or even obscure topics, and again my stuff is easy to find on the Internet, using only 'general' searches, and neither I nor my site is well-known. I'm using "?=123". SEO is a very large, broad subject. Pretty-URLs could be an SEO tidbit, but SEO-goals are overwhelmingly achieved with more-direct, higher-leverage practices than tweaking the appearance of links. Yeah … when the handle for a page is “?=123″, that’s room for 999 posts, in a mere 5 letters. How much horrid ugliness can be packed into a 5-letter string? ;-)

OTOH, “?=123″ clues me not, whether to expect the latest on Hollywood gossip, or Freud’s Theory of the Id. I like that a link offers a peek at what we’re in for.

WordPress.com gives away a very nice hosted environment. Most are reasonable with the freebie, but there will be those who are not. With 2 million accounts out, it takes few to make trouble … and that I suspect lies behind many of the ‘arbitrary’ limitations seen on the WordPress.com hosts, including the URL-formation policies.

I have tried several kinds of searches, to uncover how search engines actually stand on “?=123″, and what kind of penalty might be incurred, and I have been unsuccessful. Anyone got links?

As a new WordPress author, I have written a short series of posts on different plugin titles. Each of them has risen to first-page ranking, quickly. I write on some other less-popular or even obscure topics, and again my stuff is easy to find on the Internet, using only ‘general’ searches, and neither I nor my site is well-known. I’m using “?=123″.

SEO is a very large, broad subject. Pretty-URLs could be an SEO tidbit, but SEO-goals are overwhelmingly achieved with more-direct, higher-leverage practices than tweaking the appearance of links.

]]> By: Luke http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210778 Luke Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:26:29 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210778 Search engines don't care whether they are ugly or pretty links at all, it's really what the user wants. I prefer permalinks myself done using the default style links. Search engines don’t care whether they are ugly or pretty links at all, it’s really what the user wants. I prefer permalinks myself done using the default style links.

]]> By: Don Melton http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210771 Don Melton Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:36:42 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210771 @bubazoo: The reason the "?p=123" style is the WordPress default for a local or shared hosting installation of a WordPress tarball is that there is no guarantee your ".htaccess" file is writable or that you have "mod_rewrite" or the equivalent on your web server. Notice that this is NOT the default for blogs created on WordPress.com. And that's because the folks at Automattic can completely control the environment there. In fact, they don't even let you change it from the more SEO-friendly style. @bubazoo: The reason the “?p=123″ style is the WordPress default for a local or shared hosting installation of a WordPress tarball is that there is no guarantee your “.htaccess” file is writable or that you have “mod_rewrite” or the equivalent on your web server. Notice that this is NOT the default for blogs created on WordPress.com. And that’s because the folks at Automattic can completely control the environment there. In fact, they don’t even let you change it from the more SEO-friendly style.

]]> By: bubazoo http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210747 bubazoo Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:23:48 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210747 I mean, if your going to use /p=123 then why not say index.php?p=123 at least that would look nicer, ya know what I mean? I mean, if your going to use /p=123 then why not say
index.php?p=123 at least that would look nicer, ya know what I mean?

]]> By: bubazoo http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210746 bubazoo Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:22:42 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210746 but everyone has their own definition of "ugly" though, but I do agree the domain.com/blog/?p=123 permalink idea is very ugly. and should not be the default. I think the default should be /%postname%/ or /%date%/%postname%/ one of the two. most people use one of those two anyway, and anything other then that I can't see making a bit of difference in the first place. but everyone has their own definition of “ugly” though, but I do agree the domain.com/blog/?p=123 permalink idea is very ugly. and should not be the default. I think the default should be /%postname%/ or /%date%/%postname%/ one of the two. most people use one of those two anyway, and anything other then that I can’t see making a bit of difference in the first place.

]]> By: Mr. Quotes http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210663 Mr. Quotes Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:56:27 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2008/01/27/other-side-of-permalinks/#comment-1210663 No doubt very well explained. Ugly urls are always are a major offense on every SEO's list. Thanks for sharing. No doubt very well explained. Ugly urls are always are a major offense on every SEO’s list. Thanks for sharing.

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