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	<title>Comments on: Defensio Comment Spam Prevention</title>
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		<title>By: xentek</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1197793</link>
		<dc:creator>xentek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't plan on switching from Akismet, and while 2 a day get held for moderation, that is easy enough to help train Akismet by bulk moderating them.

However, the competition should keep Automattic from resting on their laurels (not that they were) and should spur some decent innovation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t plan on switching from Akismet, and while 2 a day get held for moderation, that is easy enough to help train Akismet by bulk moderating them.</p>
<p>However, the competition should keep Automattic from resting on their laurels (not that they were) and should spur some decent innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: n-blue</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1177942</link>
		<dc:creator>n-blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 06:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried and deactivated. It's not gives me comment function slow but give 405 error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried and deactivated. It&#8217;s not gives me comment function slow but give 405 error.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Lee</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1177445</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't notice any delays when posting comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t notice any delays when posting comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1176487</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for me worked too fine spanm karma 2, i reccomended</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for me worked too fine spanm karma 2, i reccomended</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1176447</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aksimet was holding a lot of comments in moderation for me to review, so I became a beta tester with Defensio several weeks ago. There were a few glitches in the first couple of days, but since then I've had no comment errors and none held for moderation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aksimet was holding a lot of comments in moderation for me to review, so I became a beta tester with Defensio several weeks ago. There were a few glitches in the first couple of days, but since then I&#8217;ve had no comment errors and none held for moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: sk</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1175788</link>
		<dc:creator>sk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don't see what this is offering over Akismet. I've got a custom setup with some extra tools in addition to akismet and its working great for me. its great that there's a competitor so that both will continually try to beat each other in result offer customers a better service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t see what this is offering over Akismet. I&#8217;ve got a custom setup with some extra tools in addition to akismet and its working great for me. its great that there&#8217;s a competitor so that both will continually try to beat each other in result offer customers a better service.</p>
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		<title>By: bubazoo</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1175752</link>
		<dc:creator>bubazoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its hard to get people to comment anyway, on most blogs, thats why I don't care for Wordpress's registration system.  Not only can spammers break the registration system, but it don't do any good anyway, although half of them register and never come back anyway. 

so I think, anything that slows the comment system down, is not worth using, because people will jsut get annoyed, and not leave a comment. might as well turn off comments if yer gonna have that much security against them, thats my opinion anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its hard to get people to comment anyway, on most blogs, thats why I don&#8217;t care for Wordpress&#8217;s registration system.  Not only can spammers break the registration system, but it don&#8217;t do any good anyway, although half of them register and never come back anyway. </p>
<p>so I think, anything that slows the comment system down, is not worth using, because people will jsut get annoyed, and not leave a comment. might as well turn off comments if yer gonna have that much security against them, thats my opinion anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ghosh</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1175269</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ghosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl: Simple comments are slow to be checked for spam, sending false positives feedback is slow, and it is slow to approve a comment. Almost everything that has to do with the API has been slow. I will not have a chance to run detailed statistics which might have helped you and I apologize for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl: Simple comments are slow to be checked for spam, sending false positives feedback is slow, and it is slow to approve a comment. Almost everything that has to do with the API has been slow. I will not have a chance to run detailed statistics which might have helped you and I apologize for that.</p>
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		<title>By: LcF</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1175268</link>
		<dc:creator>LcF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the review. the slow response time is a no-no for antispam plugin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the review. the slow response time is a no-no for antispam plugin.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Share</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1175265</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Share</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cody, when I first installed SK2, I did check for false positives. I stopped when it began to feel like a waste of time (a month later?) since there was nothing there. 

A lot depends on how you configure the filters. I followed some guides and have SK2's daily notification of comments that need moderating. There I will sometimes see real comments but less often than not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cody, when I first installed SK2, I did check for false positives. I stopped when it began to feel like a waste of time (a month later?) since there was nothing there. </p>
<p>A lot depends on how you configure the filters. I followed some guides and have SK2&#8217;s daily notification of comments that need moderating. There I will sometimes see real comments but less often than not.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Mercier</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1175264</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Mercier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

Could you give us more information about what kind of "slowliness" you're seeing?  According to our logs, we're processing requests in 100-200ms, which is inline with what we were aiming for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Could you give us more information about what kind of &#8220;slowliness&#8221; you&#8217;re seeing?  According to our logs, we&#8217;re processing requests in 100-200ms, which is inline with what we were aiming for.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't it a smart thing to &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; check for false positives? No matter how good a spam filter is, there's always the chance it might fail. Akismet has only labeled a good comment as spam once for me, and that comment did look a lot like spam if you didn't look at the actually content (there were lots of links and line breaks, etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it a smart thing to <i>always</i> check for false positives? No matter how good a spam filter is, there&#8217;s always the chance it might fail. Akismet has only labeled a good comment as spam once for me, and that comment did look a lot like spam if you didn&#8217;t look at the actually content (there were lots of links and line breaks, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Share</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/11/07/defensio-comment-spam-prevention/#comment-1175244</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Share</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Defensio doesn't sound too impressive. Akismet is good, but I find that every user of it is still checking their spam tables for false positives. I use Spam Karma2 and I *never* have to check my spam tables,  I wonder why more people aren't using it over Akismet or even together with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defensio doesn&#8217;t sound too impressive. Akismet is good, but I find that every user of it is still checking their spam tables for false positives. I use Spam Karma2 and I *never* have to check my spam tables,  I wonder why more people aren&#8217;t using it over Akismet or even together with it.</p>
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		<title>By: wolly (paolo valenti)</title>
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		<dc:creator>wolly (paolo valenti)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love askimet but askimet has a bad backend to manage spam if you receive a lot a spam.

I hope next version of askimet will have a better management of the spam   queue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love askimet but askimet has a bad backend to manage spam if you receive a lot a spam.</p>
<p>I hope next version of askimet will have a better management of the spam   queue</p>
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