Comments on: Fake Comment Forms Battle Spam http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/ Weblog Tools Blogging Tools Blog Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:21:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: brendan http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1149908 brendan Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:14:16 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1149908 Akismet and SK2 both suffer the same fate any 'pattern' based learning spam engine suffers - false positives are inevitable. Despite the hype - Akismet isn't perfect and quick frankly wading through 200+ spam comments (why they haven't provided a better bulk listing mode, I'll never know) is painful. I've been pondering using cookies to control comment posting (i.e. no cookie, no comment). That may not be friendly to those who disable all cookies - but it's about the least obtrusive I can think of. Akismet and SK2 both suffer the same fate any ‘pattern’ based learning spam engine suffers - false positives are inevitable.

Despite the hype - Akismet isn’t perfect and quick frankly wading through 200+ spam comments (why they haven’t provided a better bulk listing mode, I’ll never know) is painful.

I’ve been pondering using cookies to control comment posting (i.e. no cookie, no comment). That may not be friendly to those who disable all cookies - but it’s about the least obtrusive I can think of.

]]> By: James http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148824 James Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:25:19 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148824 I HAVE A SOLUTION TO COMMENT SPAM! Are you ready? Here it is... Disable comments on your blog. Ok, seriously, I have been thinking about putting up a link to a chat room instead of comments. I HAVE A SOLUTION TO COMMENT SPAM! Are you ready? Here it is…

Disable comments on your blog. Ok, seriously, I have been thinking about putting up a link to a chat room instead of comments.

]]> By: Matt Lee http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148141 Matt Lee Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:25:51 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148141 What about accessibility? Putting more than one form and hiding with CSS seems like it would break accessibility. Not everyone uses Firefox to surf the web :) What about accessibility? Putting more than one form and hiding with CSS seems like it would break accessibility. Not everyone uses Firefox to surf the web :)

]]> By: Argumenti http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148108 Argumenti Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:52:34 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148108 You can fix BB false positives by using this patch: http://neosmart.net/blog/2006/opera-patch-for-bad-behavior/ It really does work. You can fix BB false positives by using this patch:
http://neosmart.net/blog/2006/.....-behavior/

It really does work.

]]> By: everton http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148050 everton Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:03:10 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148050 BB - no comeback for false positives.... Aksimet and SK2 do a good job of weeding out the spam but they take up lots of unnessary space in your database and cPu resource to process - wouldn't it better to just dump confirmed spam? That's why tips like this are useful - makes it easier to find the false positives then. On bigger blogs this is impossible to do manually e.g. at one point in dec i was getting 250 spams a min..... Augsuman's new comment guard plugin has the right approach in my view, although it auto-deletes which I don't like as it will create false positives that can't be fixed BB - no comeback for false positives….

Aksimet and SK2 do a good job of weeding out the spam but they take up lots of unnessary space in your database and cPu resource to process - wouldn’t it better to just dump confirmed spam? That’s why tips like this are useful - makes it easier to find the false positives then. On bigger blogs this is impossible to do manually e.g. at one point in dec i was getting 250 spams a min…..

Augsuman’s new comment guard plugin has the right approach in my view, although it auto-deletes which I don’t like as it will create false positives that can’t be fixed

]]> By: Helen http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148046 Helen Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:56:13 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148046 I recently installed <a href="http://www.douglaskarr.com/contact-me/" rel="nofollow">Douglas Kerr's contact form</a> which is Ryan Duffs, modified to include an anti-spam question. So far it's been 100% effective in blocking spam e-mails through the comment form. I recently installed Douglas Kerr’s contact form which is Ryan Duffs, modified to include an anti-spam question. So far it’s been 100% effective in blocking spam e-mails through the comment form.

]]> By: Rick Beckman http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148037 Rick Beckman Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:50:17 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148037 Walter: At least Akismet lets you weed out your own false positives; Bad Behavior doesn't make that an easy process, in my experience. Walter: At least Akismet lets you weed out your own false positives; Bad Behavior doesn’t make that an easy process, in my experience.

]]> By: Walter Jeffries http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148019 Walter Jeffries Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:34:10 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1148019 People bother with this stuff because Bad Behavior has too many false positives. I installed it and got hundreds of reader complaints that they couldn't access my blog http://NoNAIS.org so I dumped Bad Behavior after wasting time trying to get it twiddled right. Akismet has issues too. People bother with this stuff because Bad Behavior has too many false positives. I installed it and got hundreds of reader complaints that they couldn’t access my blog http://NoNAIS.org so I dumped Bad Behavior after wasting time trying to get it twiddled right. Akismet has issues too.

]]> By: Moridin http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1147754 Moridin Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:00:39 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1147754 I am prone to agree. In my opinion, creativity is of uttermost importance when creating plugins and addons, although imagination without knowledge is ignorance waiting to happen. It is about what people need, not what one can create. I am prone to agree. In my opinion, creativity is of uttermost importance when creating plugins and addons, although imagination without knowledge is ignorance waiting to happen. It is about what people need, not what one can create.

]]> By: Tom Edwards http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1147634 Tom Edwards Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:55:35 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1147634 Why do people bother with this stuff? Akismet, Bad Behaviour, done. Why do people bother with this stuff? Akismet, Bad Behaviour, done.

]]> By: Ben http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1147622 Ben Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:39:51 +0000 http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2007/02/16/fake-comment-forms-battle-spam/#comment-1147622 seems senseless. i also could give them a blank page. or just install bad behavior. seems senseless. i also could give them a blank page. or just install bad behavior.

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