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	<title>Comments on: SpamKarma and WP Performance</title>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2005/03/27/spamkarma-and-wp-performance/#comment-1174119</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've just noticed that SK2 was guilty for slowing my comments posting system, and i've reached this blog looking for more information on how to deal with this.

At the moment, with 2700 comments on my database and over 7000 of spam comments caught (and kept) by SK2, it takes more than 60secs to post a comment on my blog.
I've emptied Sk2 spam table and it keep slowing down my comments.

I know that this is because of SK2 because when i disable it, it all works perfectly. What else can i do? I didnt empty sk2_blacklist (1500 records), and i think that i souldn't. 

Any suggestion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just noticed that SK2 was guilty for slowing my comments posting system, and i&#8217;ve reached this blog looking for more information on how to deal with this.</p>
<p>At the moment, with 2700 comments on my database and over 7000 of spam comments caught (and kept) by SK2, it takes more than 60secs to post a comment on my blog.<br />
I&#8217;ve emptied Sk2 spam table and it keep slowing down my comments.</p>
<p>I know that this is because of SK2 because when i disable it, it all works perfectly. What else can i do? I didnt empty sk2_blacklist (1500 records), and i think that i souldn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Any suggestion?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2005/03/27/spamkarma-and-wp-performance/#comment-247616</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll try spamkarma then. Is this why many of my trackbacks do not work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try spamkarma then. Is this why many of my trackbacks do not work?</p>
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		<title>By: dr Dave</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2005/03/27/spamkarma-and-wp-performance/#comment-20229</link>
		<dc:creator>dr Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 04:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SK1 used to add that FULLTEXT key to the comments table with 1.2... although it doesn't do it any more (1.5 SQL schema changed, for some reason). But at that time, there wasn't any issue of thousands of useless spams kept in the table... Indeed 50 megs is much too big...

SK2 doesn't create any key and will probably auto-purge every X days (keeping comments marked as spam is only interesting as a way to recover them in case a mistake has been done)... so things should be better...

Then again, I am pretty sure both SK1 and SK2 bring some real PHP overhead... but I am afraid there is little way to make that disappear, at best I think I can optimize it to keep it under control and bring it to the same level as other plugins or built-in tasks (for now, it seems to add about 1-2 seconds to the comment posting process... but I will soon add exact benchmarking functions to keep track of this).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SK1 used to add that FULLTEXT key to the comments table with 1.2&#8230; although it doesn&#8217;t do it any more (1.5 SQL schema changed, for some reason). But at that time, there wasn&#8217;t any issue of thousands of useless spams kept in the table&#8230; Indeed 50 megs is much too big&#8230;</p>
<p>SK2 doesn&#8217;t create any key and will probably auto-purge every X days (keeping comments marked as spam is only interesting as a way to recover them in case a mistake has been done)&#8230; so things should be better&#8230;</p>
<p>Then again, I am pretty sure both SK1 and SK2 bring some real PHP overhead&#8230; but I am afraid there is little way to make that disappear, at best I think I can optimize it to keep it under control and bring it to the same level as other plugins or built-in tasks (for now, it seems to add about 1-2 seconds to the comment posting process&#8230; but I will soon add exact benchmarking functions to keep track of this).</p>
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		<title>By: centripetalforces dot com</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2005/03/27/spamkarma-and-wp-performance/#comment-20170</link>
		<dc:creator>centripetalforces dot com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Warp Speed Mr Sulu.&lt;/strong&gt;

There&#8217;s a short but useful tip over at the &#8216;weblogtoolscollection&#8217; about cleaning up after SpamKarma is removed. 

SpamKarma is a great anti-spam plug-in, but I found it was a little too aggressive, hitting most commenter&#8217;s with...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Warp Speed Mr Sulu.</strong></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a short but useful tip over at the &#8216;weblogtoolscollection&#8217; about cleaning up after SpamKarma is removed. </p>
<p>SpamKarma is a great anti-spam plug-in, but I found it was a little too aggressive, hitting most commenter&#8217;s with&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: What makes you happy ? &#187; Playing with the database</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2005/03/27/spamkarma-and-wp-performance/#comment-20040</link>
		<dc:creator>What makes you happy ? &#187; Playing with the database</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that he noticed an issue with his blog slowing down, and he pondered whether it was due to spam-karma.  Having an excuse to mess with the database was a  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that he noticed an issue with his blog slowing down, and he pondered whether it was due to spam-karma.  Having an excuse to mess with the database was a  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2005/03/27/spamkarma-and-wp-performance/#comment-19877</link>
		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For clearing out/evaluating spam comments, I've fallen in love with Coldforged's &lt;a href="http://www.coldforged.org/paged-comment-editing-plugin/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Paged Comment Editing&lt;/a&gt; plugin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For clearing out/evaluating spam comments, I&#8217;ve fallen in love with Coldforged&#8217;s <a href="http://www.coldforged.org/paged-comment-editing-plugin/">Paged Comment Editing</a> plugin.</p>
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		<title>By: Geof F. Morris</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2005/03/27/spamkarma-and-wp-performance/#comment-19855</link>
		<dc:creator>Geof F. Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Somebaudy, as George notes, 1.20 forward in the 1.x branch still stores the comments.

I think storing the comments is a worthwhile thing to do, although from a design perspective, I don't know if it might not make sense to move spam to another database table.  I'd have to think on that a while.

I'd rather keep the spam around for Bayesian-filtering purposes, although perhaps duplicate triples [URL, IP, email] could be gleaned...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Somebaudy, as George notes, 1.20 forward in the 1.x branch still stores the comments.</p>
<p>I think storing the comments is a worthwhile thing to do, although from a design perspective, I don&#8217;t know if it might not make sense to move spam to another database table.  I&#8217;d have to think on that a while.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather keep the spam around for Bayesian-filtering purposes, although perhaps duplicate triples [URL, IP, email] could be gleaned&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blogging Pro &#187; Blog Archive  &#187; SpamKarma and WP Performance</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2005/03/27/spamkarma-and-wp-performance/#comment-19835</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogging Pro &#187; Blog Archive  &#187; SpamKarma and WP Performance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ve used Spam Karma in the past but are not using it any longer Weblog Tools Collection has some tips for increasing WordPress performance after deleting  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ve used Spam Karma in the past but are not using it any longer Weblog Tools Collection has some tips for increasing WordPress performance after deleting  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Somebaudy</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2005/03/27/spamkarma-and-wp-performance/#comment-19829</link>
		<dc:creator>Somebaudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which version of Spam Karma did you install ? If you did install the 2.0 alpha maybe you can use the current 1.X version that does not store comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which version of Spam Karma did you install ? If you did install the 2.0 alpha maybe you can use the current 1.X version that does not store comment.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2005/03/27/spamkarma-and-wp-performance/#comment-19824</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier versions of Spam Karma did delete the comments.  However, they changed this to fit with how WordPress 1.5 itself handles spam comments (storing them).  The aim was to later use that data to improve the filter itself (a "learning" filter).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier versions of Spam Karma did delete the comments.  However, they changed this to fit with how WordPress 1.5 itself handles spam comments (storing them).  The aim was to later use that data to improve the filter itself (a &#8220;learning&#8221; filter).</p>
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